Position Defender Discussion

[Connoisseur]

C Daniel:






2019 Disposals Avg: 26.53
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 27: 109.3 from 10 (1/10 below 100, 2/10 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 27: 84.43 from 7 (4/7 below 80, 6/7 below 100)

2019 Wins Avg: 103.57 from 7 (1/7 below 80, 2/7 below 100, 1/7 120+)
2019 Losses Avg: 95.9 from 10 (3/10 below 80, 5/10 below 100, 1/10 120+)
2019 Pre Bye Avg: 101.27 from 11 (2/11 below 80, 4/11 below 100, 2/7 120+)
2019 Post Bye Avg: 95 from 6 (2/6 below 80, 3/6 below 100)

 

[jarrad_]

still a wait and see for me after last year

 

[Connoisseur]

R Laird:






R Laird:
2015-2019 SC Avg: 99.17 from 102
2017-2019 SC Avg: 101.55 from 64

Wins: 103.78 from 63 (29/63 below 100, 18/63 120+)
2015: 98.08 from 13
2016: 101.85 from 13
2017: 104.53 from 15
2018: 111.83 from 12
2019: 102.9 from 10

Losses: 91.89 from 38 (27/38 below 100, 5/38 120+)
2015: 86.88 from 8
2016: 80.5 from 4
2017: 91.83 from 6
2018: 102.88 from 8
2019: 91.75 from 12

Pre Bye: 102.07 from 54 (25/54 below 100, 15/54 120+)
2015: 95.5 from 10
2016: 95.75 from 8
2017: 106.67 from 12
2018: 110.91 from 11
2019: 99.31 from 13

Post Bye: 95.90 from 48 (32/48 below 100, 8/48 120+)
2015: 92.27 from 11
2016: 97.78 from 9
2017: 92.4 from 10
2018: 105 from 9
2019: 93.22 from 9


Disposals avg since 2017: 30.14 from 64
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 31: 117.07 from 30 (3/30 below 100, 16/30 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 31: 87.85 from 34 (8/34 below 80, 29/34 below 100, 0/34 120+)

 

[jarrad_]

thanks for that would it be to hard to compare his scores with smith in the team?

 

[Dimmawit]

Laird *clink*

 

[Connoisseur]

thanks for that would it be to hard to compare his scores with smith in the team?

Since 2015:
With B Smith: 96.70 from 81
Without B Smith: 108.67 from 21 (18 of those in 2018)

 

[Leroy]

Since 2015:
With B Smith: 96.70 from 81
Without B Smith: 108.67 from 21 (18 of those in 2018)

That certainly tells a tale doesn't it?

 

[jarrad_]

I thought laird would be much worse but is still worthwhile starting with

 

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

That certainly tells a tale doesn't it?

Also the win/loss average matters depending on how you see Adelaide faring this season.

 

[IDIG]

Update on some Carlton defenders...


Carlton captain Sam Docherty has successfully returned to full training at Ikon Park, following two years ruined by ruptured ACLs.

The 26-year-old had career years across 2016 and 2017, before the significant setbacks.

Everything remains on track for Docherty to run out as Blues skipper for the first time in Round 1 of 2020 and backline coach Dale Amos was full of praise for the work he has put in.

“He’s in fantastic shape … he’s training as well as anyone and he’s back in full training,” Amos told Carlton Media.

“He’s been really influential within the playing group, which has forced him to find ways to influence things not just with his on-field stuff.

“We’re really excited about what he’s going to produce over the coming weeks.”

Sam Petrevski-Seton: “‘Samo’ had a really impressive final 6-8 weeks last year. He looked really comfortable across half back and got better every single week. We’re excited that he’ll be able to get a pre-season where he can hone his craft and hopefully spend some more time across half back.”

Tom Williamson: “Tom had an issue with his back last year which didn’t really give him the chance to get on the park: it was frustrating for him and disappointing no doubt for our fans. He’s building up really nicely and is back into most of training now. He’s an exciting young player who we’re really looking forward to seeing more footy from. We want to get him out on the park and playing week in, week out. He’s progressing really nicely and hopefully we’ll get to see some footy from him really soon.”

 

[IDIG]

He is an interesting prospect isn’t he.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217278667690131457

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217279152102899712

 

[freowho]

I'm not completely up to speed with Docherty if anyone can help.
Did he do the same knee twice?
Did they choose a different technique the second time?
Has he changed his preparation this time?
He seemed to miss a lot of games at Brissy didn't he?
Obviously a star when he's going but 2 years out is a lot.

 

[scarfaceclaw]

I'm a massive fan of sps. I'm just looking for some way to dodgy the numbers enough to justify picking him. I'm not completely sold on any defenders yet.

 

[Leroy]

I'm a massive fan of sps. I'm just looking for some way to dodgy the numbers enough to justify picking him. I'm not completely sold on any defenders yet.

How about this?
SPS - 2019 Average when getting 20 or more disposals (8 matches): 100

 

[OnTopBar]

How about this?
SPS - 2019 Average when getting 20 or more disposals (8 matches): 100

He's defs a watch for me....

 

[Toothless Tigers]

How about this?
SPS - 2019 Average when getting 20 or more disposals (8 matches): 100

Are we that short for defenders that SPS is in the conversation?

 

[Leroy]

Are we that short for defenders that SPS is in the conversation?
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Don't look at me, I was just providing dodgy stats so people can make their own case .

It's an informative picture though: 6 games below 65, 5 games above 100. When he's on he's quality, when he goes missing he's worse than a rookie.

Average in wins is 94.7 with a low of 75. Maybe if you thought Carlton were going to clock 10 wins...

 

[Leroy]

How about this?
SPS - 2019 Average when getting 20 or more disposals (8 matches): 100

And just to show you it's not completely worth ignoring, for that stat he is better than Rory Laird, who only averaged 96.8 in 2019 when getting 20+ disposals* !



* In every one of his 22 matches.

 

[scarfaceclaw]

I looked up SPS's average SC score from the u-18 Championships in the prospectus. 93. That's not as high as i expected. Oh well!

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Maybe if you thought Carlton were going to clock 10 wins...

Stranger things have happened like it raining fish in Honduras, but Carlton winning 10 games is unlikely!