Position 2022: Defender Discussion

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What’s peoples thoughts on Caleb Daniel? Does dale take to many of his points?
Should not be of much concern as he can push further up the field or into the midfield rotations where he can amass tackles, contested possessions, etc to compensate for a drop in disposal averages. More concerning is his low mark averages compared to his competition for spots amongst the top echelon of Supercoach defenders which restricts his ceiling and ability to push a seasonal average of mid 100’s. A low entry cost is a positive and if he can avoid a performance like RD4 2021, his price should stay within the $450,000 to $535,000 range for the majority of the season.
 
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Are most thinking Whifield is a lock at his starting price of 502K?

He does seem underpriced but his injury history/ amount of games missed each year is a real concern :-

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Really tempted by Sicily at 448K, but again injury history a worry :-

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Not sure you can take both/ maybe only take the risk on 1 is the wisest move.
I actually don't love either of these picks.

Whitfield we need to see where his role settles. He scores fairly consistently across them and is underpriced regardless but his durability is pretty terrible, the concussions are a MAJOR concern given how many he's had and how incredibly soft most of them have been, basically if his head gets brushed he's done at this point.

Definitely value and his ceiling is right up there though.

Sicily my concern is more just where does he fit, how will they use him and how many guys can you have back there who all want the ball?

Last year they had Impey, Jiath, Hardwick and Scrimshaw. You've got Day and Sicily to squeeze into that group somewhere. Given they've got DGB and how much they've invested there and Hartigan, I'm not sure they need Sicily there and they definitely need him forward.

Even at value, I think I'd rather pay an extra 50k for some certainty. Especially after an ACL, although to be fair he's had a ridiculous recovery time at this point so you'd think it shouldn't be an issue but my feeling is it's the guys who take way longer than they should to return that I worry about more as it's indicative that there are issues there, be they physical or mental and from someone who has done a couple of ACLs the mental can be the bigger issue to overcome and one you don't know the answer to until you get out and play a proper game or two.
 
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Time for the backs, normally I find myself fond of the backs and end up trying to squeeze in 8 to 4 or 5 spots, this year is the first in a long time I actually prefer the forwards I think for that factor.

Lloyd - Probably the closest guy to a lock for me right now across all positions. Durability is ace. Can make a genuine case he's underpriced with Dawson and Mills out of the way. Averaged 110 over the last 11 games when Dawson moved to a wing, averaged 115 over the last 6 when Hewett was in the mids and Dawson in an attacking wing role.

Basically he has no competition for cheap touches or even really for any kind of attacking forays out of defense. Probably ends up being Blakey as the other guy and he'll miss a quarter of each game and every third game if his career is anything to go by.

I haven't started Lloyd in several years but he just feels primed for a 110+ year.

Ziebell - Not a lot of interest here. Was great last year but he's fair to over priced. Averaged "just" 99 over the last 13 games as Hall stole his points. Hall is more dynamic and I expect him to remain #1.

Stewart - Can make a case he's underpriced after that incoherent game where they tried to turn him into a lockdown back pocket. Durability has a couple of blows the last couple of years but isn't terrible.

Ultimately I think he's fairly priced. I tend to like that when there isn't good value around but I think there is...

Rich - One of the weirder big breakouts I've seen, I actually picked him as a potential premium last year in the equivalent of this post but I didn't see 107 (obviously or I'd have started him!). Feels like the kind of freak breakout that rebounds to the mean next year rather than being what to expect.

Could be wrong though, he was huge. I do think Coleman probably demands more ball than Birchall who was basically just a 1-2 machine for Rich to rack up some cheapies but there's no real reason he can't sustain this. I do think that gun to my head he's in the fairly priced to overpriced group though.

Hall - I try and walk away but I just can't find the reason to. HBF is the easiest position, both for fantasy reasons but also on the body, the amount of breakable types who go there and start playing 22 games is uncanny. Averaged 116 over his last 16 games and 122 over the last 8 as he got more and more comfortable in the role and was genuinely influencing games, sure there were cheap stats but he was playing good footy.

Basically that has him 10-15 points underpriced with elite scoring potential. I think the only thing pushing him out of my team would be him playing somewhere else entirely in preseason.

Crisp - Really hard to judge. Durability is obviously immense. He actually scored his best last year after going back into defense over the last 8 or so rounds. Based on that scoring he'd actually be underpriced but I think it's fair to say he's basically fairly priced to overpriced based on history.

There's a lot to be said about a guy who rocks up, averages 100 and plays 22 games though and unlike everyone but Lloyd above, he offers that.

Dawson - Don't like him with the uncertainty of how they plan to use him. I heard HF much more than I'd want to in the trade period aftermath. He should go down as one of the bigger trade rapes unless Adelaide stuff it up because they got INCREDIBLE value on him, he was comfortably the best winger in the league over the last 10 or so rounds last year. He's an elite rebounding defender and I dare say he'd be excellent as an inside midfielder also.

But I just have no idea how they will use him or how he fits into the new team and their style and until I know that it's hard to take the risk. He could be the top averaging defender in the right roles though so will be watching. Average is tanked by Horse dicking him around positionally for the first half of last year.

Heppell - Durability has been an issue for him the last few years. I'm not sure what his role will be this year, I assume they recruited Kelly for a reason, even if I can't find it despite my best efforts, releasing Heppell to the midfield or wing makes as much sense as anything on that front. Another where you get what you pay for most likely.

Ryan - He's underpriced after struggling with his body, which is a win/lose sentence! For mine him and Stewart are basically the same player so I'd obviously prefer Ryan at 8 points cheaper but I tend to lean towards them both kind of being 103 types. Bit of value but not a lot and the Dockers do have some unknown to them.

Ridley - It's hard to go past him, that said perhaps it's my search for a reason of them recruiting Kelly going to far as to why I like him... as to me the only reason that really makes any sense to recruit Kelly is to free Ridley up to be a floating 3rd tall with no defensive responsibility again after they tried to turn him into a lockdown defender over the back half of last season for some inane reason. I still think he's closer to what he was pre-concussion last year than the mediocre player he was the rest of the year. I think he's a 110 range guy if used correctly but while Rutten is pretty damn high on my coach trust list, Ridley is the one guy I didn't get last year.

Short - Clear path #1 rebounder. Probably fairly priced but could definitely produce that Rich type of season. Basically I feel really good he averages 95+ with a better than average chance of breaking past 100. Does too many things too well. That said I think his upside is probably limited compared to a few other names due to being a pretty one-dimensional scorer.

Doch - Get well soon star!

Dale - Could definitely push a bit higher but a fair bit of competition for touches and like Short he's pretty one-dimensional. Like him though and wouldn't be shocked if he went towards 105, he definitely can intercept mark if they want to.

Andrews - KPD aren't for me, especially fairly limited ones.

Salem - First half of the season was absurd, 2nd half was pretty poor. Think his average is about right. Lot of chefs here and he's one-dimensional.

Weitering - Huge season last year, has more strings to his bow than most KPD, do wonder how Jones being gone will hurt him, his ability to take the best forward and nullify them definitely helped Weitering stay in the more favourable matchups but the kids quality. Ultimately KPD struggle to go much higher than this.

Daniel - I thought he had upside at 101.5 last year to the point where he was one of the last non-selections I made. Still think there is but role uncertainty last year and Dale's emergence have dented that to an extent. Still think he's underpriced but he's another single tool guy.

Hind - My best move of the year last year. No interest this year for all the same concerns I have on Heppell. That said, wouldn't be shocked if he did push 100+. Ultimately there might just be too many chefs at the Bombers.

Cumming - I really like him, another of my better picks last year (the fact my best picks were hitting 93 probably says it all...). Quality ball user, can intercept as well. Another where there is team uncertainty. Ash, Whitfield, Perryman and Haynes is a lot of competition.

Whitfield - (edited in...) Posted it above to be honest, concussion history has become a genuine concern, especially given his last couple have been like bumping into someone on a train. He's fragile.

He can also score like almost no one on this list. He's not SC friendly in what he does with over-ambitious kicking and the predominantly non-contact style but he just racks it up over and over and brute forces scores.

Ultimately it's hard to argue he's not 7 points underpriced with upside to that into a 20 type number. Probably cheap enough to trump the durability concerns.

Role is the other question, where will they use him? His scoring has been pretty solid despite roles but he's definitely at his best playing more midfield or as a pure rebounder than shuffling everywhere, not needed for defense so hopefully takes up a wing.

Maynard - Not sure what happened to him last year, just seemed lost. Probably fair to say last year and the year before are basically the range he's in as a player. Not quite good enough with the ball or intercepting to take the leap. Lot of competition also. Durability a plus.

Perryman - He's that surprisingly good bad player, I still haven't worked him out! Think he's pretty fairly priced but he could definitely improve.

Hardwick/Sicily/Impey/Jiath/Scrimshaw/Bramble/Day - Just going to put them all together. That's 7 names before you even get to the actual defenders trying to fit into 6 spots and from those 6 spots realistically you might have 3 who can score premium. Anyone who can pick the winner in that bunch and actually puts them in their team, if there even is a winner, deserves the 50k!

Lever/Moore/McGovern/Aliir/Taylor/Doedee/May - Lets call them the KP guys who we know what they are more or less. To be fair I like May because kick-ins but still think the ceiling is on the low side.

Hurn - I mean he scored better than he played last year. With no Shep he might be worth more consideration than I'm giving him but durability has fallen away and at his age I don't trust the body.

Tuohy/Vlastuin/B. Smith - Lets call them the inconsistent rebounders group of we know what they are.

Newman - Definitely some upside here, there's the spot available to put up 95+. On the radar.

Witherden - Does anyone trust him? It's a problem when you're so bad defensively that you get beaten as the floating rebounder... He can score but can he keep the trust to stay in the side? Will watch as the spot is there for him.
 
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10,000 dodging...

Sinclair - Loved his season last year but similar to the Hawks, so many names to fit in there. Think they will keep sharing, especially given Ratten seems obsessed with Dougal Howard, by far the worst kick and the best marker in their backline, taking the kickouts which really hurts all the fantasy viable guys.

Houston - I probably should have put him with Tuohy above but I still think there's more there... I've basically vetoed myself from picking him again this year so fully expecting the breakout and then I'll trade him in and he dies because that's how it works.

Williams - I mean, he looks and moves a bit like Houston as a player so why not be the exact same thing... Wonder if he shows up like a fat pig again or in shape this year... He's underpriced.

That's the top 40 done, now the other names that stand out to me a bit...

Blicavs - If they went with him as ruck. Not sure how you could trust it even if they did for round one...

Bowes - Definitely worth watching, showed his ceiling to start last year, showed how bad he can be from that point on...

Saad - Weirdly bad season last year, clearly playing hurt for a large chunk, if not the entire season. No good reason he can't get back to 95+, ticks a lot of boxes. Definitely watching.

Powell - Probably same boat as Bowes, probably in each other's way, possibly not good enough.

Lukosius - Stinker of a season last year, like really bad. Not sure what his role will be but he's far better than his price. Definitely a 95+ rebounding defender there, needs to stop playing so small and add intercept work, not just for fantasy but his team is desperate for it also, if he's staying in defense. Realistically needs to become the CHF he was drafted as though.

Howe - I've got a fork in him at this point. Body seems done and the premium scoring seems a yesteryear thing.

Young - He's a supreme talent. Might be too soon but I'm definitely watching him, they need him.

Haynes - Enigma, I think the 87 is probably his real area after going 75/87/98/76 over the last 4 years given some injuries last year. With so many rebounders I can't see the 98 as likely.

Ash - Speaking of too many rebounders, I think there's a 95+ rebounder here, not sure it's with GWS given the other options.

Duggan - Blown us all off last year, watch him do it this year. The role is there, albeit probably as a defender this year not a mid.

H. Clark - Still rate him so highly, surprised Ratten seems to hate him so much as a player given it's hard to fault a guy who is hard as nails and uses it well but Ratten has always been one of those coaches. Still, I think there's probably 3 different roles he can be fantasy relevant in so if he lands in them then he's chance, heck probably four even if you break genuine midfielder into inside mid and outside mid (wing, hbf the other two), note that forward pocket and HFF are not on that list and neither is bench warmer.

Hewett - Huge wraps on him. Consummate team man who always sacrificed his role but don't let that hide the little fantasy pig that he is when he isn't doing that. Can absolutely average 95+ in a normal midfield role and could push much higher if they use him as they should. Cripps is a broken mess and even if he isn't he needs help and Hewett is easily their 2nd best inside mid and should have that role. Coach is the big question as just have no idea what he's going to do but if he goes common sense, Hewett should be near the top of their rotation. Hewett and Cripps feeding Cerra and Walsh is a damn good starting point. Hewett has serious Lyons potential at the Blues.

Day - I know I lumped him above but he is cheap enough to at least mention, could play wing and could score very well alleviating some of the concerns above. Body hard to trust at this point.

Petrovski-Seton - It's clear he was very lazy at Carlton but I loved this add for the Eagles, they desperately need some class in the midfield and while he was clearly lazy, Carlton were also obsessed with playing him out of position. SPS under NicNat can basically be what Kelly's kicking stops him being, that second fiddle that can run off Shuey/Yeo into wide open tap-zones for NicNat to hit on the burst and then hit the big leading targets on the tit. I'll at least have him high on the watch list because he's so talented.

Coffield - Probably a too many chef victim but I rate him.

Rioli/Blakely/Coleman/Farrar/Campbell/Ruscoe - Like the two who can be forwards the most but will watch all of them as super talented guys in rebounding roles. Not sure how many can be squeezed in but definitely watching!

Milera - Probably could be in the group above. Same story.

Connolly - Showed a bit last year, another Saint but I really liked his composure given his experience. Big leap though.
 
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Time for the backs, normally I find myself fond of the backs and end up trying to squeeze in 8 to 4 or 5 spots, this year is the first in a long time I actually prefer the forwards I think for that factor.

Lloyd - Probably the closest guy to a lock for me right now across all positions. Durability is ace. Can make a genuine case he's underpriced with Dawson and Mills out of the way. Averaged 110 over the last 11 games when Dawson moved to a wing, averaged 115 over the last 6 when Hewett was in the mids and Dawson in an attacking wing role.

Basically he has no competition for cheap touches or even really for any kind of attacking forays out of defense. Probably ends up being Blakey as the other guy and he'll miss a quarter of each game and every third game if his career is anything to go by.

I haven't started Lloyd in several years but he just feels primed for a 110+ year.

Ziebell - Not a lot of interest here. Was great last year but he's fair to over priced. Averaged "just" 99 over the last 13 games as Hall stole his points. Hall is more dynamic and I expect him to remain #1.

Stewart - Can make a case he's underpriced after that incoherent game where they tried to turn him into a lockdown back pocket. Durability has a couple of blows the last couple of years but isn't terrible.

Ultimately I think he's fairly priced. I tend to like that when there isn't good value around but I think there is...

Rich - One of the weirder big breakouts I've seen, I actually picked him as a potential premium last year in the equivalent of this post but I didn't see 107 (obviously or I'd have started him!). Feels like the kind of freak breakout that rebounds to the mean next year rather than being what to expect.

Could be wrong though, he was huge. I do think Coleman probably demands more ball than Birchall who was basically just a 1-2 machine for Rich to rack up some cheapies but there's no real reason he can't sustain this. I do think that gun to my head he's in the fairly priced to overpriced group though.

Hall - I try and walk away but I just can't find the reason to. HBF is the easiest position, both for fantasy reasons but also on the body, the amount of breakable types who go there and start playing 22 games is uncanny. Averaged 116 over his last 16 games and 122 over the last 8 as he got more and more comfortable in the role and was genuinely influencing games, sure there were cheap stats but he was playing good footy.

Basically that has him 10-15 points underpriced with elite scoring potential. I think the only thing pushing him out of my team would be him playing somewhere else entirely in preseason.

Crisp - Really hard to judge. Durability is obviously immense. He actually scored his best last year after going back into defense over the last 8 or so rounds. Based on that scoring he'd actually be underpriced but I think it's fair to say he's basically fairly priced to overpriced based on history.

There's a lot to be said about a guy who rocks up, averages 100 and plays 22 games though and unlike everyone but Lloyd above, he offers that.

Dawson - Don't like him with the uncertainty of how they plan to use him. I heard HF much more than I'd want to in the trade period aftermath. He should go down as one of the bigger trade rapes unless Adelaide stuff it up because they got INCREDIBLE value on him, he was comfortably the best winger in the league over the last 10 or so rounds last year. He's an elite rebounding defender and I dare say he'd be excellent as an inside midfielder also.

But I just have no idea how they will use him or how he fits into the new team and their style and until I know that it's hard to take the risk. He could be the top averaging defender in the right roles though so will be watching. Average is tanked by Horse dicking him around positionally for the first half of last year.

Heppell - Durability has been an issue for him the last few years. I'm not sure what his role will be this year, I assume they recruited Kelly for a reason, even if I can't find it despite my best efforts, releasing Heppell to the midfield or wing makes as much sense as anything on that front. Another where you get what you pay for most likely.

Ryan - He's underpriced after struggling with his body, which is a win/lose sentence! For mine him and Stewart are basically the same player so I'd obviously prefer Ryan at 8 points cheaper but I tend to lean towards them both kind of being 103 types. Bit of value but not a lot and the Dockers do have some unknown to them.

Ridley - It's hard to go past him, that said perhaps it's my search for a reason of them recruiting Kelly going to far as to why I like him... as to me the only reason that really makes any sense to recruit Kelly is to free Ridley up to be a floating 3rd tall with no defensive responsibility again after they tried to turn him into a lockdown defender over the back half of last season for some inane reason. I still think he's closer to what he was pre-concussion last year than the mediocre player he was the rest of the year. I think he's a 110 range guy if used correctly but while Rutten is pretty damn high on my coach trust list, Ridley is the one guy I didn't get last year.

Short - Clear path #1 rebounder. Probably fairly priced but could definitely produce that Rich type of season. Basically I feel really good he averages 95+ with a better than average chance of breaking past 100. Does too many things too well. That said I think his upside is probably limited compared to a few other names due to being a pretty one-dimensional scorer.

Doch - Get well soon star!

Dale - Could definitely push a bit higher but a fair bit of competition for touches and like Short he's pretty one-dimensional. Like him though and wouldn't be shocked if he went towards 105, he definitely can intercept mark if they want to.

Andrews - KPD aren't for me, especially fairly limited ones.

Salem - First half of the season was absurd, 2nd half was pretty poor. Think his average is about right. Lot of chefs here and he's one-dimensional.

Weitering - Huge season last year, has more strings to his bow than most KPD, do wonder how Jones being gone will hurt him, his ability to take the best forward and nullify them definitely helped Weitering stay in the more favourable matchups but the kids quality. Ultimately KPD struggle to go much higher than this.

Daniel - I thought he had upside at 101.5 last year to the point where he was one of the last non-selections I made. Still think there is but role uncertainty last year and Dale's emergence have dented that to an extent. Still think he's underpriced but he's another single tool guy.

Hind - My best move of the year last year. No interest this year for all the same concerns I have on Heppell. That said, wouldn't be shocked if he did push 100+. Ultimately there might just be too many chefs at the Bombers.

Cumming - I really like him, another of my better picks last year (the fact my best picks were hitting 93 probably says it all...). Quality ball user, can intercept as well. Another where there is team uncertainty. Ash, Whitfield, Perryman and Haynes is a lot of competition.

Whitfield - (edited in...) Posted it above to be honest, concussion history has become a genuine concern, especially given his last couple have been like bumping into someone on a train. He's fragile.

He can also score like almost no one on this list. He's not SC friendly in what he does with over-ambitious kicking and the predominantly non-contact style but he just racks it up over and over and brute forces scores.

Ultimately it's hard to argue he's not 7 points underpriced with upside to that into a 20 type number. Probably cheap enough to trump the durability concerns.

Role is the other question, where will they use him? His scoring has been pretty solid despite roles but he's definitely at his best playing more midfield or as a pure rebounder than shuffling everywhere, not needed for defense so hopefully takes up a wing.

Maynard - Not sure what happened to him last year, just seemed lost. Probably fair to say last year and the year before are basically the range he's in as a player. Not quite good enough with the ball or intercepting to take the leap. Lot of competition also. Durability a plus.

Perryman - He's that surprisingly good bad player, I still haven't worked him out! Think he's pretty fairly priced but he could definitely improve.

Hardwick/Sicily/Impey/Jiath/Scrimshaw/Bramble/Day - Just going to put them all together. That's 7 names before you even get to the actual defenders trying to fit into 6 spots and from those 6 spots realistically you might have 3 who can score premium. Anyone who can pick the winner in that bunch and actually puts them in their team, if there even is a winner, deserves the 50k!

Lever/Moore/McGovern/Aliir/Taylor/Doedee/May - Lets call them the KP guys who we know what they are more or less. To be fair I like May because kick-ins but still think the ceiling is on the low side.

Hurn - I mean he scored better than he played last year. With no Shep he might be worth more consideration than I'm giving him but durability has fallen away and at his age I don't trust the body.

Tuohy/Vlastuin/B. Smith - Lets call them the inconsistent rebounders group of we know what they are.

Newman - Definitely some upside here, there's the spot available to put up 95+. On the radar.

Witherden - Does anyone trust him? It's a problem when you're so bad defensively that you get beaten as the floating rebounder... He can score but can he keep the trust to stay in the side? Will watch as the spot is there for him.
Awesome write up mate 👍
 
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Yeah, but at some point you have a good run injury free. two years is a long time to be injured. How do you see the Crows deploying new recruit Dawson.?
For Milera as a person I hope that's the case; but reality does not always work that way.

According to Doedee Dawson is earmarked for a Wing/Inside Midfield role.
 
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For Milera as a person I hope that's the case; but reality does not always work that way.

According to Doedee Dawson is earmarked for a Wing/Inside Midfield role.
Going to be fascinating to watch how they use him, based on the twitter trade threads I think that Adelaide and the footy media in general are going to be absolutely shocked how good he is when they actually watch him play. Genuinely got outrageous value on that trade!

Think he can score 110+ in that role, the Adelaide being questionable is the interesting part as a winger he'd be very dependent on others. Inside mid I think he should be modelling on a sort of Pendles/Bont hybrid and there isn't really any reason he can't be close to that level if he can adapt to being a clearance player, which will be a big question of him. One of those players who does well in contests but hasn't really sought them out so it's hard to know which aspect of that would come through in the midfield where it's always a contest. He's exactly what the Crows need through the middle though, has some size, a good marking target and absurd kick, I actually think it's where he fits best for them as they've actually got HB/Wing pretty well covered if players can stay fit.

Definitely be watching him closely.
 
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Going to be fascinating to watch how they use him, based on the twitter trade threads I think that Adelaide and the footy media in general are going to be absolutely shocked how good he is when they actually watch him play. Genuinely got outrageous value on that trade!

Think he can score 110+ in that role, the Adelaide being questionable is the interesting part as a winger he'd be very dependent on others. Inside mid I think he should be modelling on a sort of Pendles/Bont hybrid and there isn't really any reason he can't be close to that level if he can adapt to being a clearance player, which will be a big question of him. One of those players who does well in contests but hasn't really sought them out so it's hard to know which aspect of that would come through in the midfield where it's always a contest. He's exactly what the Crows need through the middle though, has some size, a good marking target and absurd kick, I actually think it's where he fits best for them as they've actually got HB/Wing pretty well covered if players can stay fit.

Definitely be watching him closely.
I've had him in and out of a couple of teams; right now he's out, but if it looks like he's getting significant inside time I'll be hard pressed not to try to squeeze him in. The uncertainty over his exact role + Ridley and Short being slightly cheaper has him behind them for the time being, but I've had my eye on him all pre-season and he's one of the players who are next in line or earmarked as an upgrade target
 
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Going to be fascinating to watch how they use him, based on the twitter trade threads I think that Adelaide and the footy media in general are going to be absolutely shocked how good he is when they actually watch him play. Genuinely got outrageous value on that trade!

Think he can score 110+ in that role, the Adelaide being questionable is the interesting part as a winger he'd be very dependent on others. Inside mid I think he should be modelling on a sort of Pendles/Bont hybrid and there isn't really any reason he can't be close to that level if he can adapt to being a clearance player, which will be a big question of him. One of those players who does well in contests but hasn't really sought them out so it's hard to know which aspect of that would come through in the midfield where it's always a contest. He's exactly what the Crows need through the middle though, has some size, a good marking target and absurd kick, I actually think it's where he fits best for them as they've actually got HB/Wing pretty well covered if players can stay fit.

Definitely be watching him closely.
I think I've just picked Dawson!!!
His scores last year seemed to correlate with how many kicks he had. He only had 1 big score at the SCG in the last match against witches hats.
 
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Daniel Rioli 336k Def/fwd

When moved to defence after Houli was out, he averaged 84.5 in the final 6 weeks of the season (scores of 83, 111, 54, 87, 95, 77)

With Houli retired, I assume he is still playing half back tiger supporters?

Certainly impressed playing half back, like that he has dual classification- really helps my structure having him at D4.
 
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Daniel Rioli 336k Def/fwd

When moved to defence after Houli was out, he averaged 84.5 in the final 6 weeks of the season (scores of 83, 111, 54, 87, 95, 77)

With Houli retired, I assume he is still playing half back tiger supporters?

Certainly impressed playing half back, like that he has dual classification- really helps my structure having him at D4.
I can see the upside for sure, but sell me on the pick if you would...

Averaging 85 he increases in price about 90k (worse than a rookie) and is too weak to really be an F6/D6 keeper. So is it a value pick to get some points on field early that then becomes DPP bench cover?

$300k+ is a lot of starting salary for someone to end up on the bench ;)

Or is there a strong case for 90+? That would seem perhaps ambitious off 6 games - undoubtedly a talented footballer though :unsure:
 
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