I've gone Jacobs - Luey so a similar thought process, i think you can afford to take a bit of a risk on the R2 when you're grabbing what you believe is a rolled gold top 2 ruckman - although maybe i've got my Crows tinted glasses on but i did start with Goldy last year and he seemed like a bit of a slow starter - don't forget last year he took 8 rounds to crack a ton! Hoping he has another slow start this year as he's definitely penciled in as a upgrade target.
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Are those punters who are going for Jacobs at R1 starting O'Brien in at R3? will he come in if Jacobs misses a game?
I looked at going Mumford, R2, then Phillips at R3 but he is about $210k from memory so was effectively spending $820k on my r1. Saved a trade though in the case of a late out for Mumford (then provided Phillips is the one who comes in).
I looked at going Mumford, R2, then Phillips at R3 but he is about $210k from memory so was effectively spending $820k on my r1. Saved a trade though in the case of a late out for Mumford (then provided Phillips is the one who comes in).
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Someone pls talk me out of Stef Martin.
Main reason being hes the ultimate POD (or negative POD) - NO ONE has him.
Unbelievable preseason.
Great on deck and around the ground and as fwd when resting, so arguably less impacted by score changes than other elite rucks.
Team will be 4 goals better.
Only downside is Berger.
But seriously, the coin i have from Naitanui / Martin doesnt change my structure (not enough to conjure another keeper).
I feel sick ... lolz
Main reason being hes the ultimate POD (or negative POD) - NO ONE has him.
Unbelievable preseason.
Great on deck and around the ground and as fwd when resting, so arguably less impacted by score changes than other elite rucks.
Team will be 4 goals better.
Only downside is Berger.
But seriously, the coin i have from Naitanui / Martin doesnt change my structure (not enough to conjure another keeper).
I feel sick ... lolz
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Got a curious question... Having seen Mumford in what seems to be a lot of teams...
For those that are selecting him, Do you have any reason to believe he will play more than 19 games?
In 7 seasons he has never played more than 19 games and if you take away his rookie season in which he played only 3 games, the remaining 6 seasons he has missed an average of 6 games per season.
Just curious seeing a guy that will likely miss multiple games end up in so many teams. Is it his high ceiling that is got people selecting him? or am i missing something?
For those that are selecting him, Do you have any reason to believe he will play more than 19 games?
In 7 seasons he has never played more than 19 games and if you take away his rookie season in which he played only 3 games, the remaining 6 seasons he has missed an average of 6 games per season.
Just curious seeing a guy that will likely miss multiple games end up in so many teams. Is it his high ceiling that is got people selecting him? or am i missing something?
Those are all the reasons I was looking at him, and I think he will do better than a lot of people think. I don't think Berger will impact his scoring too much because a lot of his points come from ground level work and he has set himself clearly as the number 1 ruck. Plus you will get the games against St Kilda at the Gabba where he will go off and score 150s. They have a fairly easy draw and I see him averaging 105-110. To me the question is can you find someone cheaper than him who may score around that mark, and I think Maric may be that person, without the added risk of Berger's presence. Saving 70k is pretty attractive to me but then again Martin will be a huge POD and I think if he pays off you will be well ahead. And to be honest I don't think it is all that much of a risk because if he doesn't pay off, you can downgrade him to a Maric or Nic Nat before the price drop in rd3. We should know by rd 2 (Collingwood first, then Kangas) whether he will be any good.
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I think most people are looking at his soft draw for the first 6 rounds or so and then cash him in before he gets injured.
Imagine trading Mummy out for Jacobs/Goldy + cash!
Of course that's the assumption he doesn't get injured before round 6
Imagine trading Mummy out for Jacobs/Goldy + cash!
Of course that's the assumption he doesn't get injured before round 6
I've been to a few training sessions as well this summer and I have been impressed each time I've seen him. He is very much at full 100% fitness and if his body doesn't hold up this year it never will. Going out on a limb here I think his body will hold up at least until the byes. But I certainly wouldn't wager any money on it!
I still probably won't pick him as I don't think he can improve enough to become a top 2, or even top 5 SC ruckman of the competition. However for those who are considering him as part of the R/F coverage plan there has been nothing at training to suggest he won't perform at his best this year.
I still probably won't pick him as I don't think he can improve enough to become a top 2, or even top 5 SC ruckman of the competition. However for those who are considering him as part of the R/F coverage plan there has been nothing at training to suggest he won't perform at his best this year.