Strategy 2024: Round 13 Trades
- Thread starter Tamuhawk
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IN Heeney, Dunkley, Dawson
Out wilson, clohesy, Darcy
$378,100
Leaves me with
Daicos, Ryan, Sheezel, Dale, Martin, Salem (Reid, Dawson*)
Bont, Serong, Dunkley*, Butters, Oliver, Miller, Green, Walsh (Sullivan, Garcia, Freija)
Gawn, Grundy (Livingstone)
Heeney*, Zorko, Flanders, Macrae, Powell, Sexton (Garcia, Richards)
Probably need to improve D6, F5,6 and hopefully improve Miller and Clarry. Only 12 trades left.
IN Heeney, Dunkley, Dawson
Out wilson, clohesy, Darcy
$378,100
Leaves me with
Daicos, Ryan, Sheezel, Dale, Martin, Salem (Reid, Dawson*)
Bont, Serong, Dunkley*, Butters, Oliver, Miller, Green, Walsh (Sullivan, Garcia, Freija)
Gawn, Grundy (Livingstone)
Heeney*, Zorko, Flanders, Macrae, Powell, Sexton (Garcia, Richards)
Probably need to improve D6, F5,6 and hopefully improve Miller and Clarry. Only 12 trades left.
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Yep, the Oliver experiment has disappointed, I'm so tempted to trade him out this week.
Following MEL's poor performance last weekend, I anticipate a strong comeback this week against COL's injured midfield, potentially allowing Oliver to score close to his BE 134. So, I am also tempted to hold on to Oliver for 1 more week before his Rd14 Bye.
If Oliver scores poorly this week, then I will definitely use his money to get Gawn in after their Bye.
Following MEL's poor performance last weekend, I anticipate a strong comeback this week against COL's injured midfield, potentially allowing Oliver to score close to his BE 134. So, I am also tempted to hold on to Oliver for 1 more week before his Rd14 Bye.
If Oliver scores poorly this week, then I will definitely use his money to get Gawn in after their Bye.
Hmmm, I just seen this article and maybe it is time to drop Oliver?
Oliver's drop in stats were also caused by him playing with an injured hand, that clearly affected his performance. But fitness does look like the main reason for his average performance.
'Plodding' star's drop in form concerns Cornes (msn.com)
'Plodding' star's drop in form concerns Cornes
Story by Anna Pavlou
• 1hr ago •
Kane Cornes has raised concerns surrounding Melbourne midfielder Clayton Oliver's fitness.
It comes after the Demons' dismal 92-point smashing at the hands of Fremantle on Sunday in Alice Springs.
It is Melbourne's third loss in four games and also the heaviest defeat in coach Simon Goodwin's time at the helm.
"You have to question their credentials," Cornes said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.
But, more specifically, Cornes is questioning whether Oliver, who had a nightmare pre season, is up to the standard he once was.
The 26-year-old's lead into 2024 was far from easy.
In October he was admitted to hospital after a seizure, the cause of which was partially attributed to side effects of an ADHD medication.
The 26-year-old then took extended personal leave in January after he was sent home early from a pre-season camp
Oliver did manage to play in the club's Opening Round loss to Sydney at the SCG and has been a mainstay in the side ever since.
But, his midfield presence is simply not being felt due to his fitness drop off, according to Cornes.
"He just looks like a plodding midfielder who isn't doing any damage with the football," Cornes said.
"He doesn't look as fit as he has in the past. Certainly not covering the ground like he would.
"For a player that's earning $1 million a season, I know it's complex, I know there's a lot going into it, but we judge him on his on-field performance and it's just not up to standard."
Oliver is a 2021 premiership player and in 2022 was crowned Melbourne's best and fairest after a standout season.
Oliver is averaging 24.6 disposals this year. In 2022, he averaged a stellar 32.7.
He's also dropped to an average of 10.8 contested possessions, in comparison to his 17.8 two seasons ago.
It's a major red flag for Cornes, who is most worried about his drop off in intensity around the footy.
Oliver has dropped from an average of 8.7 clearances a game in 2022, to just 4.8 this season.
"(Those) are the numbers of an average midfielder," Cornes said.
"The thing that concerns me is the clearance. Almost half-less in clearance and score involvements."
Despite the lamenting of Oliver's drop off, Matthew Lloyd says no one should be shocked at his downfall, considering how poor his pre-season was.
"Are we surprised (at Oliver's drop off)? Of course you're going to drop off, aren't you?" Lloyd said.
"You'd have be a rare player, that can have such a poor pre-season, and then expect to turn up and play good footy."
Melbourne dropped out of the top eight after their loss to the Dockers, sitting in 10th with a 7-5 record.
They'll face off against Collingwood next Monday as part of their annual King's birthday clash at the MCG.
Oliver's drop in stats were also caused by him playing with an injured hand, that clearly affected his performance. But fitness does look like the main reason for his average performance.
'Plodding' star's drop in form concerns Cornes (msn.com)
'Plodding' star's drop in form concerns Cornes
Story by Anna Pavlou
• 1hr ago •
Kane Cornes has raised concerns surrounding Melbourne midfielder Clayton Oliver's fitness.
It comes after the Demons' dismal 92-point smashing at the hands of Fremantle on Sunday in Alice Springs.
It is Melbourne's third loss in four games and also the heaviest defeat in coach Simon Goodwin's time at the helm.
"You have to question their credentials," Cornes said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.
But, more specifically, Cornes is questioning whether Oliver, who had a nightmare pre season, is up to the standard he once was.
The 26-year-old's lead into 2024 was far from easy.
In October he was admitted to hospital after a seizure, the cause of which was partially attributed to side effects of an ADHD medication.
The 26-year-old then took extended personal leave in January after he was sent home early from a pre-season camp
Oliver did manage to play in the club's Opening Round loss to Sydney at the SCG and has been a mainstay in the side ever since.
But, his midfield presence is simply not being felt due to his fitness drop off, according to Cornes.
"He just looks like a plodding midfielder who isn't doing any damage with the football," Cornes said.
"He doesn't look as fit as he has in the past. Certainly not covering the ground like he would.
"For a player that's earning $1 million a season, I know it's complex, I know there's a lot going into it, but we judge him on his on-field performance and it's just not up to standard."
Oliver is a 2021 premiership player and in 2022 was crowned Melbourne's best and fairest after a standout season.
Oliver is averaging 24.6 disposals this year. In 2022, he averaged a stellar 32.7.
He's also dropped to an average of 10.8 contested possessions, in comparison to his 17.8 two seasons ago.
It's a major red flag for Cornes, who is most worried about his drop off in intensity around the footy.
Oliver has dropped from an average of 8.7 clearances a game in 2022, to just 4.8 this season.
"(Those) are the numbers of an average midfielder," Cornes said.
"The thing that concerns me is the clearance. Almost half-less in clearance and score involvements."
Despite the lamenting of Oliver's drop off, Matthew Lloyd says no one should be shocked at his downfall, considering how poor his pre-season was.
"Are we surprised (at Oliver's drop off)? Of course you're going to drop off, aren't you?" Lloyd said.
"You'd have be a rare player, that can have such a poor pre-season, and then expect to turn up and play good footy."
Melbourne dropped out of the top eight after their loss to the Dockers, sitting in 10th with a 7-5 record.
They'll face off against Collingwood next Monday as part of their annual King's birthday clash at the MCG.