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Saints fans - very disappointing for you to lose Phillipou for a big chunk of the season.
I guess it means they have to bring someone else into the midfield mix.
Do you see any chance that they would opt for Mitch Owens?
I really like him, think he has star potential.
He is just a bit slight for the KPF roles he's been filling - but he has a great physique for a modern mid.
Wilson?
 
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You can use TS to do this Herbie. Eg De Koning. Find someone in 2024 who started around 361k and you can track their price rises. In this case Waterman. Not perfect but it gives you a rough guide. Also remember MN is probably slightly different this year.

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on a desktop or lap top in the team picker select the player then select 'season stats' this will show last years figures. example Wardlaw. started at $365K, played 10 games up to bye at @ 80.9 and increased to $417 - increase of @$52K
 

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Just curious how much they would need to average ,(roughly) to make a $ 150k + profit

Understand it changes depending on what they score each game etc etc

de Koning , S $ 361,9 k
Mills $ 357,2 k
Roberts , A $ 338,4 k
Coleman $ 269,1 k
Doedee $ 256,8 k

Peatling $ 352,8 k
Cumming $ 287,7 k
Guthrie , C $ 278 k
Sheed $ 238,4 k
Maric $ 223,8 k

Flynn $ 261,9 k

Cheers
A quick rule of thumb is that they need to average 30 over what they are priced at to make $150k. Most players are priced at last years average, but there are a few that get a discount for a low game count.
 
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A quick rule of thumb is that they need to average 30 over what they are priced at to make $150k. Most players are priced at last years average, but there are a few that get a discount for a low game count.
Thanks

That's enough to play around with a few and most likely rule out.

Would a $ 100k profit be say 20 over last season's average ?
 
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A quick rule of thumb is that they need to average 30 over what they are priced at to make $150k. Most players are priced at last years average, but there are a few that get a discount for a low game count.
last year Peatling played 19 games @ 67.3 (inc finals). take out 6 heavily weighted green jacket games and overall he played 13 games @ 89.4 . would only have to improve 5 points to get 95, a 30 point increase $$$
 
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Saw the Phiilipou and Marshall news and immediately cleared my team. Ended up with this pseudo-mid-price-madness side, particularly in the forward line. If this is the team I decide to run with, I need that spare 400,000$ for the inevitable injury or the very high chance that Oliver is truly cooked. My main reservation with this team and a common theme I find with other teams, is the lack of a non-playing player for VC/C looping. Now this is viable for cash generation but I’d look to trade in a spud eventually so I can circumvent a tag or injury on my VC.
 
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last year Peatling played 19 games @ 67.3 (inc finals). take out 6 heavily weighted green jacket games and overall he played 13 games @ 89.4 . would only have to improve 5 points to get 95, a 30 point increase $$$
Peatling is intriguing

Add Cumming , Neal-Bullen , Peatling

full season of Thilthorpe

Lots of mouths to feed

Last season :-

Crouch 105.5
Laird 104.1
Dawson 102.1

Rankine 96.8
Hinge 93.5
O'Brien 93.3

Sholl 85.1
Worrell 85
Soligo 83.1
Keays 81.0
 
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Peatling is intriguing

Add Cumming , Neal-Bullen , Peatling

full season of Thilthorpe

Lots of mouths to feed

Last season :-

Crouch 105.5
Laird 104.1
Dawson 102.1

Rankine 96.8
Hinge 93.5
O'Brien 93.3

Sholl 85.1
Worrell 85
Soligo 83.1
Keays 81.0

can't disagree! but as he was getting good mid minutes the last 7 or 8 games at GWS I'm assuming that he has been led to believe that he will start with similar quotas with ADEL. (for him to up and go from GWS)

Crouch - not getting any younger (but can play nowhere else!)
Laird - hinted may be heading to h/back role again
Dawson - always Mr Fixit

Just think he will get the role first up and if plays as well as last year can easily @ 95+

But as always this time of year monitor praccy games!
 
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can't disagree! but as he was getting good mid minutes the last 7 or 8 games at GWS I'm assuming that he has been led to believe that he will start with similar quotas with ADEL. (for him to up and go from GWS)

Crouch - not getting any younger (but can play nowhere else!)
Laird - hinted may be heading to h/back role again
Dawson - always Mr Fixit

Just think he will get the role first up and if plays as well as last year can easily @ 95+

But as always this time of year monitor praccy games!
One of my few successful trade ins last season.

Yes you would think he must have been given some sort of guarantee.
 

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PRE SEASON GAMES AND SIMULATIONS

Indigenous All Stars game
Saturday, Feb 15

Fremantle v Indigenous All Stars, Optus Stadium, 7.30pm AEDT (4.30pm local)

Unofficial match simulations
Saturday, Feb 15

Western Bulldogs v Essendon, Mission Whitten Oval, 2pm AEDT (streamed on Kayo, tickets subject to capacity)

Monday, Feb 17
Geelong v Hawthorn, GMHBA Stadium, 2pm AEDT
West Coast v Richmond, Mineral Resources Park, time TBC

Thursday, Feb 20
Gold Coast v Brisbane v Collingwood, People First Stadium, 6pm AEDT (5pm local)

Friday, Feb 21
Sydney v Greater Western Sydney, Tramway Oval, 10am AEDT
Adelaide v Port Adelaide, Mount Barker, 5.30pm AEDT (5pm local) (streamed on Kayo, tickets subject to capacity)

Saturday, Feb 22
Carlton v St Kilda, Ikon Park, 11am AEDT (streamed on Kayo, tickets subject to capacity)
North Melbourne v Melbourne, Arden St, date and time TBC

* Ticket details for match simulations will be communicated by home clubs

AAMI Community Series
Tuesday, Feb 25

Geelong v Essendon, GMHBA Stadium, 7:10pm AEDT

Wednesday, Feb 26
Richmond v Collingwood, Ikon Park, 7:10pm AEDT

Thursday, Feb 27
Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs, UTAS Stadium, 5:20pm AEDT
Brisbane v Adelaide, Brighton Homes Arena, 8:10pm AEDT (7.10pm local)

Friday, Feb 28
Greater Western Sydney v Carlton, Manuka Oval, 5:20pm AEDT
Gold Coast v Sydney, People First Stadium, 8:10pm AEDT (7.10pm local)

Saturday, Mar 1
St Kilda v Port Adelaide, RSEA Park, 3:10pm AEDT
West Coast v North Melbourne, Hands Oval (Bunbury), 6:10pm (AEDT (3.10pm local)

Sunday, Mar 2
Fremantle v Melbourne, Rushton Park (Mandurah), 6:10pm AEDT (3.10pm local)

These have been added to the first post of the preseason training, match sim and game notes thread.
 

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One of my few successful trade ins last season.

Yes you would think he must have been given some sort of guarantee.
"Guarantee". It's an interesting word thrown around every pre-season, when talking about some of the players that have swapped clubs.
I will just put it out there. I believe no players, be they existing or new to a list, are given any "guarantees" of playing, let alone what role they will be playing. How could a club afford to do it? A guarantee implies compensation if the agreed to terms are not met. What would be the compensation in a situation like this?
I can see a club telling a player "We envision your role will be XYZ, and we feel you can play a part in improving our standing in this area".
I can never even imagine a player being guaranteed a game, let alone a role (outside of the elite well established players that is.).
 
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"Guarantee". It's an interesting word thrown around every pre-season, when talking about some of the players that have swapped clubs.
I will just put it out there. I believe no players, be they existing or new to a list, are given any "guarantees" of playing, let alone what role they will be playing. How could a club afford to do it? A guarantee implies compensation if the agreed to terms are not met. What would be the compensation in a situation like this?
I can see a club telling a player "We envision your role wikk be XYZ, and we feel you can play a part in improving our standing in this area".
I can never even imagine a player being guaranteed a game, let alone a role (outside of the elite well established players that is.).
I believe the feeling is that he hasn't packed up stumps and gone to Adelaide 'on a wing and a prayer!'
 

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I believe the feeling is that he hasn't packed up stumps and gone to Adelaide 'on a wing and a prayer!'
Totally agree.
"Guarantee" implies something beyond that though. I was more highlighting how dangerous it is assume something, when that's all it is, an assumption. Some people kid themselves into a player having a lucrative role because of new circumstances. In reality, we need to see how it plays out, and not take it as a given.
 
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*wipes the tears from his eyes*

It's a thing of beauty, man

I think of all the words and hours I spent last season trying to explain what you put up there in just a few pretty graphs. Top work!

My strategy, at least with mids will be:

Take the top 8 players from last year, not counting Flanders as he is DEF
4 of those will fail
2 of the others will be good picks that you can get at a big discount later in the year
2 you can get now. They might not get away from you but they won't give you chances to buy at a discount and so will cost full trades to get
FOMO is such a massive psychological issue and the key is separating a good/bad run of scores from a legitimate change. Rowell especially and to a lesser extent Luke Ryan suckered a lot of people in last year. However, I'd like to take a look at some midfielders from last year:
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Neale was the clear outstanding choice to jump on, but he'd missed Round 1 so there was only one game to go on. Dawson was the right choice to jump off in Round 3 but from Round 6 to 11 he had a purple patch averaging 132.7. LDU then averaged 116.4 from Round 10 and from Rounds 10-15 he averaged 135.6.

So starting Serong, jumping off him in Round 10, grabbing LDU and $140k profit would have been a superb move - but how many would have the chutzpah to pull off that move?
 
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