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Happy FriYAY Rows! :)
Trust you're keeping well!

Wanted to get your thoughts on a few midfield upgrade targets I (and maybe a few others too!) am considering getting before the start of next round!

Cripps vs. Gaff vs. Shuey vs. Boak

Who would be the best out of the above to finish the season in a strong way?
Cripps looks too tempting at that price but in recent times he's had a few too many down games judging by his usual standards. The other 3 I'm not really sure on but again their price might make it worthwhile.

Thanks in advance!
Hey Rumb,
Definitely Cripps above the other 3. They're all old enough and experienced enough to have set expectations for us. The other 3 in the order you put them in.
Good luck.
 
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Hi Rowsus

Sitting in 35th overall at the start of the round. Having an ok round so far with 8 players to come.

I am looking at next weeks trade and the one question that I am wrestling with is do I get NEALE? I have navigated the season without him so far but the bloke never has a bad game. With 7 rounds to go (6 games and a bye for Neale) should he be my main target?

I can get him with two rookie downgrades and a Picket upgrade
 
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Hi Rowsus

Sitting in 35th overall at the start of the round. Having an ok round so far with 8 players to come.

I am looking at next weeks trade and the one question that I am wrestling with is do I get NEALE? I have navigated the season without him so far but the bloke never has a bad game. With 7 rounds to go (6 games and a bye for Neale) should he be my main target?

I can get him with two rookie downgrades and a Picket upgrade
(sorry I am no Rowsus - but whatever you & your guts feel like doing , you should continue doing it !)
 
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(sorry I am no Rowsus - but whatever you & your guts feel like doing , you should continue doing it !)
Hi nicohigh.
Thanks for the encouragement
I agree that going with the gut is the best way to go but sometimes when you are really on the fence an independent view is required. Generally Rowsus presents the facts in a way that you may not have considered previously which can point you one way or the other.

My gut feel all year has been to do without him (as a reverse POD) which seems to have worked so far but now we are close to the finishing line it may be time to review that decision
 
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Hi Rowsus

Sitting in 35th overall at the start of the round. Having an ok round so far with 8 players to come.

I am looking at next weeks trade and the one question that I am wrestling with is do I get NEALE? I have navigated the season without him so far but the bloke never has a bad game. With 7 rounds to go (6 games and a bye for Neale) should he be my main target?

I can get him with two rookie downgrades and a Picket upgrade
This sounds like a least regret decision. Which would you regret least.
  1. Trading him in and him having a few down games or an early game injury and you miss an opportunity to gain ground on those above.

  2. Not trading him in and having him have a few monster games and you lose your chance of victory.
 
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Firstly thank you for thumping me in SCSP2 without Neale and Laird when I owned both of them With the C on Neale.

Now to the question. For the first time ever I did a sling shot trade in round 11 and feel decidedly uncomfortable about having done it and would like an independent view of how to assess it. I did the following trades.

Out: Jelly (B), Pickett (48), Hamill (DNP)
In: TMitch (102), Dusty (74), Watson (DNP)

I worked out that this gained me 69 points this week had I done no trades at all. If I did a standard 2 trade upgrade of say Pickett and Simpson to Dusty and Watson it only gained me 43 points. It doesn’t really feel like enough but it seems to me unless you pick the eyes out of it then this is not much less than you would expect to gain.

Is this a trade you would have done and how would you assess how it has or will work out?
 

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Hey Rows

Thinking of offloading Jelly
Adams vs Duncan
Any thoughts?
Adams more of a pod and risk
Duncan more proven
Hey Slam,
I think you've summed it up nicely. Well, fairly nicely. Duncan in 8.3% of teams, and Adams in 5.7%, so both are still considered POD's of sorts.
If you asked me who I thought would score more points from here, assuming they both got through injury free, I'd say Adams, due to the injuries at Collingwood. The problem of course is, that you might reasonably expect Adams to miss a game or two from here, given his history.
I guess it comes down to, if you trust Adams to get through, go him, otherwise go Duncan. I'd probably go Duncan, depending on your current Geelong player count in your team.
Good luck,
I hope you jump the right way!
 

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Hi Rowsus

Sitting in 35th overall at the start of the round. Having an ok round so far with 8 players to come.

I am looking at next weeks trade and the one question that I am wrestling with is do I get NEALE? I have navigated the season without him so far but the bloke never has a bad game. With 7 rounds to go (6 games and a bye for Neale) should he be my main target?

I can get him with two rookie downgrades and a Picket upgrade
Hi Mudflap,
up to 32nd now, and within sight of the top 10, well done!!!!
I deliberately held off answering your question until the Round ended, as I was thinking the landscape could change, and it definitely has!!!
For those that don't know, you currently have 11 Prems/Keepers that have been through their byes, 8 waiting on their byes, and the wild card now sitting in your deck, Gresham out with an injury! Using Gresham, your bank, and one downgrade, you can reach Neale.
I think you need to take a BBL approach to your trading. I think you need to be aggressive. I think you need to assume we might be gifted at least 2 more trades, which might enable the top teams to not only have 18 Prems in the future best 18 of 22 Rounds, but 18 Prems that are genuine Prems, and not faux Prems, who are coming up 5 and 10 points short of the real deal!
Now, by a BBL approach I mean you need to look at Prem scores from here, and only Prem scores, and let the other scores fall where they may.
You have 11 Prems with 7 games to come, and 8 Prems with 6 games to come, giving you 77 + 48 = 125 Prem scores to come in the next 7 Rounds. For this exercise we need to ignore potential injuries, and just concentrate on the known, rather than the potential unknown. I think the AFL will try and spread the remaining byes over 3 Rounds, though circumstances might force them to 2 Rounds. Let's assume 3. That would mean we have 4 Rounds with 22 scores counting, and 3 Rounds with 18 scores counting. 4 x 22 + 3 x 18 = 142 scores to come for your season, and 125 scores to come from your Prems. So you are currently sitting with 17 scores that potentially aren't coming from your Prem/Keepers. Your Gresham replacement will eat either 6 or 7 of those 17 scores. So looking ahead in your trading, you are trying to cover 10 or 11 scores, that at the moment aren't Prem/Keeper scores.
You've done amazing job to get to where you are without Neale. Your Captain choices must have really been pretty much on point, so well done again! The question becomes, do you continue down the Neale-less path, creating a POD between you, and probably at least 95 of the top 100, or do you close that POD, and try to make ground with your current POD's (Gaff, Daniel, Short, Goldy). You are probably aware, particularly with things like the Gawn situation, that some of your POD's will be come less PODish as we go along. If you continue to bet against Neale you really need him to drop substantially in scoring. As the teams around you fill up, and become close to complete, there is less opportunity for you to cover the gap between say a Neale at M1 and a Fyfe at M1. The main reason is, if Neale continues to be a top 2 Mid scorer, you really aren't battling the Neale team's with a Fyfe, as most will have him too, you are battling them with your M6 or M7, because their will be some teams that have all of your M1-5/6 + have Neale.
The other question is, do you try and get there by avoiding the players with Byes to come. To help in that regard, I have made a table, that is based on teams that are giving up big SC scores, teams that aren't, and those somewhere in between. I have ranked their games to come as "Easy", "Normal" and "Hard". I have then assigned the "Easy" games a value of 1.1, "Normal" games a value of 1, and the "Hard" games a value of 0.9. Here is the table, sorted from easiest draw to come, to hardest draw to come.

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As you can see, Neale only has 1 hard rated game to come.
The best way to use this table, is to forget about upcoming opponents, as the table factors that in, and just think about how the player looks and feels to you. For example, you might think Mitchell looks like 105 player from here, so you look up Haw, see they are 7.4, and you get that Mitchell might actually be worth 7.4 x 105 = 777 points from here. You might think Boak too is a 105 player from here, but Port have no easy scoring matches left, and Boak becomes 5.7 x 105 = 599 points from here. A 178 point difference, based on strength of Draw, and bye played/to be played.
Back to Neale. You might think Neale will "slip" to 125 from here, as he just can't keep going (can he?!). That would make Neale 6.1 x 125 = 763 points from here. Which if you thought Cripps, Merrett, or Parker could go 109 from here, they should match that output. The problem becomes, if Neale is regarded as a 145 player, which is what he has been this season so far, then 6.1 x 145 = 885 points, and suddenly you might need the player you pick instead to be a 885 / 7.2 = 123 player!
It's not an easy decision, but given your position, you are going to be facing many tough decisions, each and every game, from here to the end.
I'd probably use the Gresham opportunity, and close that negative POD against you, but I can fully understand, if your play is to continue to either bet against Neale, or thwart those around you with depth and POD's. Just remember, all the teams around you are gathering depth, and your POD's may not remain too PODish!
Good luck, I will be following you, and the others right up there from our site, with great interest!
 

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Firstly thank you for thumping me in SCSP2 without Neale and Laird when I owned both of them With the C on Neale.

Now to the question. For the first time ever I did a sling shot trade in round 11 and feel decidedly uncomfortable about having done it and would like an independent view of how to assess it. I did the following trades.

Out: Jelly (B), Pickett (48), Hamill (DNP)
In: TMitch (102), Dusty (74), Watson (DNP)

I worked out that this gained me 69 points this week had I done no trades at all. If I did a standard 2 trade upgrade of say Pickett and Simpson to Dusty and Watson it only gained me 43 points. It doesn’t really feel like enough but it seems to me unless you pick the eyes out of it then this is not much less than you would expect to gain.

Is this a trade you would have done and how would you assess how it has or will work out?
I was a bit lucky to beat you. You had an extra Prem out over me, on bye duty, and Zorko cancelled your Neale, so all in all, I was a bit lucky!

On to the Slingshot. Generally when I slingshot I don't want to just swap like for like, I want to gain an edge. If you swap like for like, you really are just gaining (in the short term) the difference between your new Keeper, and the what the Rookie who would have replaced your old Keeper, scored. Having said that, it's never a one week proposition, and it needs to be judged on how it plays out over the course of the season. Rather than the difference between Aarts (59) and Mitchell (102), which gives you your 43 points, you have to look at it as Mitchell + 43 v Jelly, from here to the finish, or until one of them gets injured.
What I meant by gain an edge, is either get what I believe to be a genuine upgrade on output, or get some useful dollars. You got $43k in loose change from your slingshot, I'd generally want more, unless I was doing it with an eye on thinking Jelly will get injured, or miss a game somewhere. It seems more likely for him to do that, than Mitchell. When I slingshot, I want around at least 10/game bump, or close to $100k on the deal, or even more if possible. That's the sort of edge I want on the deal.
If I had to bet one way or the other, I'd say you might end up being ok with the decision, when you get to the end of the season, and look back. Right now, it has a slight taste of lemon, but that could change quite quickly. Going in with the small $43k edge, and a query over whether it was an upgrade, made it a pretty line ball call, unless you strongly thought Jelly misses 1+ games. It will be interesting how it plays out. Jelly has the ceiling, but Mitchell has better consistency, and I think is more likely to stay on the park.
I will follow it's progress with interest. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Hi Mudflap,
up to 32nd now, and within sight of the top 10, well done!!!!
I deliberately held off answering your question until the Round ended, as I was thinking the landscape could change, and it definitely has!!!
For those that don't know, you currently have 11 Prems/Keepers that have been through their byes, 8 waiting on their byes, and the wild card now sitting in your deck, Gresham out with an injury! Using Gresham, your bank, and one downgrade, you can reach Neale.
I think you need to take a BBL approach to your trading. I think you need to be aggressive. I think you need to assume we might be gifted at least 2 more trades, which might enable the top teams to not only have 18 Prems in the future best 18 of 22 Rounds, but 18 Prems that are genuine Prems, and not faux Prems, who are coming up 5 and 10 points short of the real deal!
Now, by a BBL approach I mean you need to look at Prem scores from here, and only Prem scores, and let the other scores fall where they may.
You have 11 Prems with 7 games to come, and 8 Prems with 6 games to come, giving you 77 + 48 = 125 Prem scores to come in the next 7 Rounds. For this exercise we need to ignore potential injuries, and just concentrate on the known, rather than the potential unknown. I think the AFL will try and spread the remaining byes over 3 Rounds, though circumstances might force them to 2 Rounds. Let's assume 3. That would mean we have 4 Rounds with 22 scores counting, and 3 Rounds with 18 scores counting. 4 x 22 + 3 x 18 = 142 scores to come for your season, and 125 scores to come from your Prems. So you are currently sitting with 17 scores that potentially aren't coming from your Prem/Keepers. Your Gresham replacement will eat either 6 or 7 of those 17 scores. So looking ahead in your trading, you are trying to cover 10 or 11 scores, that at the moment aren't Prem/Keeper scores.
You've done amazing job to get to where you are without Neale. Your Captain choices must have really been pretty much on point, so well done again! The question becomes, do you continue down the Neale-less path, creating a POD between you, and probably at least 95 of the top 100, or do you close that POD, and try to make ground with your current POD's (Gaff, Daniel, Short, Goldy). You are probably aware, particularly with things like the Gawn situation, that some of your POD's will be come less PODish as we go along. If you continue to bet against Neale you really need him to drop substantially in scoring. As the teams around you fill up, and become close to complete, there is less opportunity for you to cover the gap between say a Neale at M1 and a Fyfe at M1. The main reason is, if Neale continues to be a top 2 Mid scorer, you really aren't battling the Neale team's with a Fyfe, as most will have him too, you are battling them with your M6 or M7, because their will be some teams that have all of your M1-5/6 + have Neale.
The other question is, do you try and get there by avoiding the players with Byes to come. To help in that regard, I have made a table, that is based on teams that are giving up big SC scores, teams that aren't, and those somewhere in between. I have ranked their games to come as "Easy", "Normal" and "Hard". I have then assigned the "Easy" games a value of 1.1, "Normal" games a value of 1, and the "Hard" games a value of 0.9. Here is the table, sorted from easiest draw to come, to hardest draw to come.

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As you can see, Neale only has 1 hard rated game to come.
The best way to use this table, is to forget about upcoming opponents, as the table factors that in, and just think about how the player looks and feels to you. For example, you might think Mitchell looks like 105 player from here, so you look up Haw, see they are 7.4, and you get that Mitchell might actually be worth 7.4 x 105 = 777 points from here. You might think Boak too is a 105 player from here, but Port have no easy scoring matches left, and Boak becomes 5.7 x 105 = 599 points from here. A 178 point difference, based on strength of Draw, and bye played/to be played.
Back to Neale. You might think Neale will "slip" to 125 from here, as he just can't keep going (can he?!). That would make Neale 6.1 x 125 = 763 points from here. Which if you thought Cripps, Merrett, or Parker could go 109 from here, they should match that output. The problem becomes, if Neale is regarded as a 145 player, which is what he has been this season so far, then 6.1 x 145 = 885 points, and suddenly you might need the player you pick instead to be a 885 / 7.2 = 123 player!
It's not an easy decision, but given your position, you are going to be facing many tough decisions, each and every game, from here to the end.
I'd probably use the Gresham opportunity, and close that negative POD against you, but I can fully understand, if your play is to continue to either bet against Neale, or thwart those around you with depth and POD's. Just remember, all the teams around you are gathering depth, and your POD's may not remain too PODish!
Good luck, I will be following you, and the others right up there from our site, with great interest!

Thanks for the insight Rowsus.

Fortunately ( or unfortunately) for me I have a day off work today to really dissect this and work through around 1000 potential trades.

I have a plan that brings in Neale and I have back up plans that include some real out there trading ......... Fisher, LDU, Wingard, and the craziest of all Darling.
 
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Hi Rowsus,

My team is almost complete, with only rookies on field at D6, F5 & F6. I'm looking to upgrade 2 of those spots this week, and as I have genuine top 8-10 premos in other spots, I have no issue with selecting value options elsewhere, with a focus on players that have had their bye. The 3 I have stood out to me are:

J Cameron 403k- Fresh off a week break, with a very soft run home (Syd, WCE, Ade, Car, Freo, Melb, Saints). Think he's ready for his assault on the coleman

D. Parish 440k- Has continued to get mid time & score well with Shiel back in the team. 5 round average of 94. In the past has finished his seasons off very well. Had 8 tackles last night which I guess isn't sustainable and doesnt have a high ceiling, but since his midfield move his floor has dramatically improved.

Z Williams. 468k - Again, the soft GWS draw. Looks to be fully fit, although his DT:SC ratio last game did worry me slightly. Very low ownership for someone of his calibre.

Would love to get your thoughts on these options, or any others that greatly interest you. Once again thanks for your guidance :)
 
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I was a bit lucky to beat you. You had an extra Prem out over me, on bye duty, and Zorko cancelled your Neale, so all in all, I was a bit lucky!

On to the Slingshot. Generally when I slingshot I don't want to just swap like for like, I want to gain an edge. If you swap like for like, you really are just gaining (in the short term) the difference between your new Keeper, and the what the Rookie who would have replaced your old Keeper, scored. Having said that, it's never a one week proposition, and it needs to be judged on how it plays out over the course of the season. Rather than the difference between Aarts (59) and Mitchell (102), which gives you your 43 points, you have to look at it as Mitchell + 43 v Jelly, from here to the finish, or until one of them gets injured.
What I meant by gain an edge, is either get what I believe to be a genuine upgrade on output, or get some useful dollars. You got $43k in loose change from your slingshot, I'd generally want more, unless I was doing it with an eye on thinking Jelly will get injured, or miss a game somewhere. It seems more likely for him to do that, than Mitchell. When I slingshot, I want around at least 10/game bump, or close to $100k on the deal, or even more if possible. That's the sort of edge I want on the deal.
If I had to bet one way or the other, I'd say you might end up being ok with the decision, when you get to the end of the season, and look back. Right now, it has a slight taste of lemon, but that could change quite quickly. Going in with the small $43k edge, and a query over whether it was an upgrade, made it a pretty line ball call, unless you strongly thought Jelly misses 1+ games. It will be interesting how it plays out. Jelly has the ceiling, but Mitchell has better consistency, and I think is more likely to stay on the park.
I will follow it's progress with interest. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the quick response.

Just a couple of points.
  • I got $55.3k from going Jelly > TMitch not $43k which is the current difference (ka ching).
  • I was assuming that TMitch would average maybe 5ppm high than Jelly from here. Jelly has been limping to 90-100 quite often after quick starts and his current average is influenced significantly by his 195 which I don’t expect to happen again. TMitch has averaged similar having not played very well and was hoping his last game was a pointer to the old TMitch re-emerging.
  • I would never base a trading decision on the expectation that 1 player is more likely to get injured than another. I think that is impossible to predict and foolhardy.
  • Jelly already missed the game (his bye) so it seems you are saying I would have needed to expect that TMitch would play 2 more games than Jelly for the rest of the year for this to be viable.
Right now I would say I regret the trade and doubt I would try something like this again however I agree that it is not an assessment you can make after 1 week.

Thanks again.
 
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Hi Rowsus.

Been contemplating this decision for awhile, and I'm still not settled.

Trading Serong (early I know) for an M7, but I feel I need to keep upgrading every week, and it's come down to an XvY (After this upgrade, I have M8 left).

Due to not having any immediate cash gen next week, I feel that I'll miss out on the player I don't pick this week.

Would you bring Fyfe or Tom Mitchell in this week?
 
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Heya Rows,

I was going to go with my gut again this week but really felt the need to check if my "strategy" is on towards the right path considering we have just one round until the H2H finals.

Firstly, although I would love to finish in the top 10k (currently ranked around 6k) my priority is my main private league. I'm currently sitting in 8th place and will likely stay in 8th at conclusion of this upcoming round even if I lose my H2H match-up this week (not fully sure how the % difference works exactly but I'm guessing unless I lose by a massive margin and the person in 9th also wins by a massive margin my % difference of 107 should hopefully be high enough to keep me in 8th!, see below). If you can confirm the exact margins then that would be great!

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If I do win my H2H match this week though, the highest I can finish is 6th.
So regardless, I'll likely be facing an elimination match-up in round 14 and I want to be best prepared as possible.

My team is below. I currently have $177k and 13 trades left. Cash gen has been a huge problem for me this season.

For this week I was thinking:
Rankine --> Gaff (I know he's under performed in the last few weeks but I still want to get him in for some reason!!! :ROFLMAO:)

Happy to be convinced of trading in someone else (my opponents have Cripps & Fyfe) but doing the above will leave me with 2 rookies left to upgrade. I'm not sure if I should downgrade any rookies this week for either Foot/Reid for some extra cash heading into next round.

Also, even if Gawn misses this week, I am thinking of keeping him. Will only trade him if he's going to miss round 14.

What do you reckon?

Thanks in advance! :)

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Hi Rowsus,

My team is almost complete, with only rookies on field at D6, F5 & F6. I'm looking to upgrade 2 of those spots this week, and as I have genuine top 8-10 premos in other spots, I have no issue with selecting value options elsewhere, with a focus on players that have had their bye. The 3 I have stood out to me are:

J Cameron 403k- Fresh off a week break, with a very soft run home (Syd, WCE, Ade, Car, Freo, Melb, Saints). Think he's ready for his assault on the coleman

D. Parish 440k- Has continued to get mid time & score well with Shiel back in the team. 5 round average of 94. In the past has finished his seasons off very well. Had 8 tackles last night which I guess isn't sustainable and doesnt have a high ceiling, but since his midfield move his floor has dramatically improved.

Z Williams. 468k - Again, the soft GWS draw. Looks to be fully fit, although his DT:SC ratio last game did worry me slightly. Very low ownership for someone of his calibre.

Would love to get your thoughts on these options, or any others that greatly interest you. Once again thanks for your guidance :)
Hi C98,
sorry for the very late reply. I've had a busy week or two.
Cameron - now $371,800 - all his numbers are down, and disproportionately down, taking the shortened games into account. Also, last year GWS kicked 278 Goals in the H&A season, for an average of 12.6/game. Cameron kicked 67 goals in 20 H&A games, for an average of 3.35/game. If we reduce both of those by 20%, for the shortened games we get 10.1 & 2.68/game. GWS and Cameron are running at 8.8 & 1.64/game. You need to believe both the Club, and the player, are going to turn that around, before you traded him in, and to me, the signs just aren't there!

Parish - now $447,800 - that means he's priced at close enough to 90/game, and it looks like he'd be doing well to average 100/game from here to the end. Hardly a bargain, and if I was looking for a value pick or two to help my team, I want better than a "hopeful" 10% bump on their "priced to score".

Williams - now $487,200 - priced at close to 98/game. I'm not sure he qualifies as a value pick, more of a risk pick. If he stays fit, he will likely be one of the better scoring Defs (top 8 or 10), that have already been through their bye. Miss one or more games, and it ruins the pick, unless he goes really big somewhere. I don't trust him, but I do understand those that are interested in taking the risk on him.

To me a value pick needs to return at least 120% on their priced to score, preferably more. Some of them come with more attached risk than others.
In the Defs, I'd be looking at the likes of:
Stack ($282,300 -$152,800) averaged 80 last season, and hasn't scored over 71 this season, but must be some chance to score better than his PTS of 57!
Aliir ($292,400 -$128,700) averaged just under 80 the previous 2 seasons, and has only gone close to that twice so far this season. With Rampe gone Aliir's role should be clear. He scored 100+ 4 times in 2019, so should be able to make his PTS of 59 quite easily.
Blakely ($375,100 -$36,400) has averaged 90, 85, 76 the past 3 seasons, and is now PTS 75. JL has said he wants him to be a Mid, and "won't" give in to the option of playing him Def. Blakely has scored 63, 53 & 93 in his 3 games back this season, but the 63 had near career high 7 Clangers. Keep in mind 6 of his 13 games in 2018 were 90+ scores. If they persist with him, which I think they will, he could potentially average 95-100 from here.
Mids: The likes of Gaff and Sloane are self explanatory, including the risk on Sloane. I'd generally avoid taking too many risks in your mids, but one risk is ok. I'd also consider Worpel as a chance to outscore his PTS of 92, given Haw's Draw is getting easier.
Fwds: Are a minefield this year, let alone trying to find a value pick. TMac $311,000 and Dahl $379,000 could easily make their prices look silly. If Blakey continues roam through the Mids, he's a ripping bargain at $288,800, but it might be a big IF! Rowbottom $421,200 is definitely playing more Mid, and seems to have gone past Florent in the pecking order, in recent weeks.

Good luck, I hope you find a good one!
 

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Thanks for the quick response.

Just a couple of points.
  • I got $55.3k from going Jelly > TMitch not $43k which is the current difference (ka ching).
  • I was assuming that TMitch would average maybe 5ppm high than Jelly from here. Jelly has been limping to 90-100 quite often after quick starts and his current average is influenced significantly by his 195 which I don’t expect to happen again. TMitch has averaged similar having not played very well and was hoping his last game was a pointer to the old TMitch re-emerging.
  • I would never base a trading decision on the expectation that 1 player is more likely to get injured than another. I think that is impossible to predict and foolhardy.
  • Jelly already missed the game (his bye) so it seems you are saying I would have needed to expect that TMitch would play 2 more games than Jelly for the rest of the year for this to be viable.
Right now I would say I regret the trade and doubt I would try something like this again however I agree that it is not an assessment you can make after 1 week.

Thanks again.
I'm interested to see how this plays out. My opinion on your $53k loose change is that it is worth around 6/Round, not the near 10-11 it might imply. So, so far we have:
Mitchell + 43 + Rnds x 6 = 132 + 43 + 2 x 6 = 187. Jelly = 119.
So far I have you 68 points in front.

As to your last point, it was more I would want to Jelly to miss at least one more game, if I was going to slingshot using those 2 players. I still think it's a chance to happen.
 

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Hi Rowsus.

Been contemplating this decision for awhile, and I'm still not settled.

Trading Serong (early I know) for an M7, but I feel I need to keep upgrading every week, and it's come down to an XvY (After this upgrade, I have M8 left).

Due to not having any immediate cash gen next week, I feel that I'll miss out on the player I don't pick this week.

Would you bring Fyfe or Tom Mitchell in this week?
Hi Eagling,
I don't think you are trading Serong out early. I traded him out last week, and i'm happy with the decision (so far). He has a BE of 102 now, Walters back, and JL saying he wants Blakely to play Mids. Barring injuries to other players, Serong might be lucky to hold his current price of $388,300, and I think he only goes backwards from here.
As to Mitchell V Fyfe, I'd go Mitchell. Lower ceiling, but less likely to miss a game though injury, has a better Draw, looks to be getting back to his old self, slowly, and I can see Fyfe spending more time Fwd, in at least a few games.
 
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Heya Rows,

I was going to go with my gut again this week but really felt the need to check if my "strategy" is on towards the right path considering we have just one round until the H2H finals.

Firstly, although I would love to finish in the top 10k (currently ranked around 6k) my priority is my main private league. I'm currently sitting in 8th place and will likely stay in 8th at conclusion of this upcoming round even if I lose my H2H match-up this week (not fully sure how the % difference works exactly but I'm guessing unless I lose by a massive margin and the person in 9th also wins by a massive margin my % difference of 107 should hopefully be high enough to keep me in 8th!, see below). If you can confirm the exact margins then that would be great!

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If I do win my H2H match this week though, the highest I can finish is 6th.
So regardless, I'll likely be facing an elimination match-up in round 14 and I want to be best prepared as possible.

My team is below. I currently have $177k and 13 trades left. Cash gen has been a huge problem for me this season.

For this week I was thinking:
Rankine --> Gaff (I know he's under performed in the last few weeks but I still want to get him in for some reason!!! :ROFLMAO:)

Happy to be convinced of trading in someone else (my opponents have Cripps & Fyfe) but doing the above will leave me with 2 rookies left to upgrade. I'm not sure if I should downgrade any rookies this week for either Foot/Reid for some extra cash heading into next round.

Also, even if Gawn misses this week, I am thinking of keeping him. Will only trade him if he's going to miss round 14.

What do you reckon?

Thanks in advance! :)

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Update: Might need to scrap the plans above cuz that CLOWN Houston is suspended :mad:
Will probably need to trade him now. No idea to who and what other trades to make. Assuming I upgrade at least one more rookie by next round that means I should have at least 18 "premium" players playing since Neale and Laird will have their bye. Ahhhhhhh what to do?! :(
 
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Hi Eagling,
I don't think you are trading Serong out early. I traded him out last week, and i'm happy with the decision (so far). He has a BE of 102 now, Walters back, and JL saying he wants Blakely to play Mids. Barring injuries to other players, Serong might be lucky to hold his current price of $388,300, and I think he only goes backwards from here.
As to Mitchell V Fyfe, I'd go Mitchell. Lower ceiling, but less likely to miss a game though injury, has a better Draw, looks to be getting back to his old self, slowly, and I can see Fyfe spending more time Fwd, in at least a few games.
Thanks for the response, Rowsus. I did trade Serong to Fyfe last week which was looking insanely good at quarter-time, but slowed somewhat to be alright. Now Yeo is out so I'll probably have to grab Titch soon anyway. I did think for a moment that had I got Titch last week I could've traded Yeo to Fyfe this week, but I neglected to take into account the extra $5k Titch cost.

Fyfe v Titch was close to a lineball but I decided to risk Fyfe's injury chances because Titch had a few low tackle games, and because of Fyfe's upside when he's on-ball.
 
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