Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team
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Really like your style of thinking! Very interesting approach!
Completely agree with your approach of being very clear about the purpose of a pick i.e. are they a cash cow or a potential keeper.
The yes but unlikely to be a keeper bucket is an interesting one you have put forward. The quasi keeper types can help early on but can hurt you late. Although, I have still done pretty well with these quasi keeper types as long as they end up playing 22 games (ie in 2019, I believe I held Brouch and BSmith all year and they were still good picks for me playing all 22 games despite averaging just under a desirable average).
One thing to note on the Milera and Taranto types are that they are still young so would not have hit their established scoring pattern as yet. So they almost become “breakout” selection type picks rather than true “fallen premiums”.
Completely agree with your approach of being very clear about the purpose of a pick i.e. are they a cash cow or a potential keeper.
The yes but unlikely to be a keeper bucket is an interesting one you have put forward. The quasi keeper types can help early on but can hurt you late. Although, I have still done pretty well with these quasi keeper types as long as they end up playing 22 games (ie in 2019, I believe I held Brouch and BSmith all year and they were still good picks for me playing all 22 games despite averaging just under a desirable average).
One thing to note on the Milera and Taranto types are that they are still young so would not have hit their established scoring pattern as yet. So they almost become “breakout” selection type picks rather than true “fallen premiums”.
I'm not a fan of the Martin pick but if you're going Martin and Preuss I think you just have to take Marshall in the FWDs for cover, at best Martin seems to be the 2nd ruck, at worst he's the reserves ruck and you've got nothing behind it.
The best pick remains the potential keeper who is also a cash cow but there is generally a pretty bad reason for why they'd be that cheap. The spike scoring is the saving grace for some, a month at 110 isn't that far off a season in what it does to the price.
Also agree totally the young guys always have a chance. I don't like this midprice group (really liked last years in comparison) but there will be a couple of guys who break out for sure, just the nature of the beast. While last year it was pretty easy to name Ridley, Simpkin, Smith, Brayshaw and Petracca before round 1 and only slightly more difficult to pick a bunch of them, I find it a lot harder this year. The names that stand out to me all have pretty terrible durability records, major injuries, role changes or all of the above even. Caldwell and Blakey probably the two who most stand out other than Milera and I can't say I love either of those picks, Caldwell actually arrives at a pretty strong midfield, especially in his area, and Blakey has basically had one game where he looked great, a couple more where he was ok and a lot of nothingness. It's a role I think suits him but I have nothing concrete to back it up. There's a few other shots as you move up the prices but even the Rozee or Cameron types are speculative.
Of course we get one random preseason game for each team to create some adventure
The best pick remains the potential keeper who is also a cash cow but there is generally a pretty bad reason for why they'd be that cheap. The spike scoring is the saving grace for some, a month at 110 isn't that far off a season in what it does to the price.
Also agree totally the young guys always have a chance. I don't like this midprice group (really liked last years in comparison) but there will be a couple of guys who break out for sure, just the nature of the beast. While last year it was pretty easy to name Ridley, Simpkin, Smith, Brayshaw and Petracca before round 1 and only slightly more difficult to pick a bunch of them, I find it a lot harder this year. The names that stand out to me all have pretty terrible durability records, major injuries, role changes or all of the above even. Caldwell and Blakey probably the two who most stand out other than Milera and I can't say I love either of those picks, Caldwell actually arrives at a pretty strong midfield, especially in his area, and Blakey has basically had one game where he looked great, a couple more where he was ok and a lot of nothingness. It's a role I think suits him but I have nothing concrete to back it up. There's a few other shots as you move up the prices but even the Rozee or Cameron types are speculative.
Of course we get one random preseason game for each team to create some adventure
Haha, the Hogan pick sure is risky! Hadn't seen him mentioned at all though so figured why not bring him up. Not sure any of the bailouts are any better either!
Ultimately rookies decide those, if the forward rookies are strong I think I'm happy with Ziebell at F1 to be honest this year. I just much prefer the premiums at all other lines for my starting cash and I think that's actually my preferred structure right now.
Preuss is more an experiment, I honestly didn't feel like the 200k actually did an awful lot, a few safer picks essentially but I do think that Preuss can post a 140 type score and back it up with a couple of 110s to make close to 250k, which would make him an excellent rookie choice. The 200k is useful for sure but I reckon the 250k could be even more useful if he can pull it off. In a lot of ways that 200k actually has diminishing value returns, I end up upgrading a Walsh, who is 10 points of value, imo, to an Oliver type who is full priced.
Not a huge fan of Impey, if there aren't other rookies I'd take him, don't get me wrong, but really needs to average 80 or spike it (not something he's shown a strong tendency for) to make the 200k mark, just not sold he out performs cheaper options. That said, JS can be worth paying for sometimes, cant make any cash if they're not playing right?
Ultimately rookies decide those, if the forward rookies are strong I think I'm happy with Ziebell at F1 to be honest this year. I just much prefer the premiums at all other lines for my starting cash and I think that's actually my preferred structure right now.
Preuss is more an experiment, I honestly didn't feel like the 200k actually did an awful lot, a few safer picks essentially but I do think that Preuss can post a 140 type score and back it up with a couple of 110s to make close to 250k, which would make him an excellent rookie choice. The 200k is useful for sure but I reckon the 250k could be even more useful if he can pull it off. In a lot of ways that 200k actually has diminishing value returns, I end up upgrading a Walsh, who is 10 points of value, imo, to an Oliver type who is full priced.
Not a huge fan of Impey, if there aren't other rookies I'd take him, don't get me wrong, but really needs to average 80 or spike it (not something he's shown a strong tendency for) to make the 200k mark, just not sold he out performs cheaper options. That said, JS can be worth paying for sometimes, cant make any cash if they're not playing right?
My latest thoughts:
Laird Stewart Doch Zwill DGB Gould (Wehr Highmore)
Neale Oliver McCluggage Cripps Walsh Heppell Phillips Powell (Facrae Valente Downie)
Grundy Pruess (Cyclone)
Marshall Heeney JCameron Ziebell Daniher Cockatoo (Rowe Durdin)
$67k remaining.
I know Cameron has a hamstring issue - will see how it goes as more match practise reports come out. Can go to Rozee or Butters if needed.
Laird Stewart Doch Zwill DGB Gould (Wehr Highmore)
Neale Oliver McCluggage Cripps Walsh Heppell Phillips Powell (Facrae Valente Downie)
Grundy Pruess (Cyclone)
Marshall Heeney JCameron Ziebell Daniher Cockatoo (Rowe Durdin)
$67k remaining.
I know Cameron has a hamstring issue - will see how it goes as more match practise reports come out. Can go to Rozee or Butters if needed.
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This is my current line-up, feel as if I'm overspending on premiums here and will need to cut some costs once rookies picture becomes more clear.
Defenders - Think Laird and Stewart are locked into my line-up barring any mishaps between now and round 1. Mills is a wait and see dependent on role and same with Williams. Lloyd, Ryan and Daniel have all piqued my interest at some stage so will be interesting to see how this falls.
Midfielders - Oliver and Crouch have been the mainstays in my midfield thus far. Neale and Cripps speak for themselves but could easily find myself dumping either before round 1. Kelly is the interesting one, durability always scares me but haven't heard anything regarding his pre-season so thinking that no news is good news. Macrae, Bont, Titch, Fyfe, Walsh and Rowell all on the radar.
Rucks - Set and forget
Forwards - Both Marshall and Dunks have not left my side since day one. I can only see upside in both of them and think they both have high floors. Haven't been tempted by any of the mid-price options here but think the main changes that could happen here is downgrading premiums in other lines to try and fit in a Ziebell or Daniher or Impey.
Feedback appreciated.
Defenders - Think Laird and Stewart are locked into my line-up barring any mishaps between now and round 1. Mills is a wait and see dependent on role and same with Williams. Lloyd, Ryan and Daniel have all piqued my interest at some stage so will be interesting to see how this falls.
Midfielders - Oliver and Crouch have been the mainstays in my midfield thus far. Neale and Cripps speak for themselves but could easily find myself dumping either before round 1. Kelly is the interesting one, durability always scares me but haven't heard anything regarding his pre-season so thinking that no news is good news. Macrae, Bont, Titch, Fyfe, Walsh and Rowell all on the radar.
Rucks - Set and forget
Forwards - Both Marshall and Dunks have not left my side since day one. I can only see upside in both of them and think they both have high floors. Haven't been tempted by any of the mid-price options here but think the main changes that could happen here is downgrading premiums in other lines to try and fit in a Ziebell or Daniher or Impey.
Feedback appreciated.
All names at the moment but based here and on other sites RMT
Cahill , Ford , Kelly , Jones , Rowe
Fullarton
Cockatoo , Durdin , Macrae , E Smith
Chugg , Laurie
etc etc
all seem popular selections , whether that translates into Round 1 selection , JS and points is all speculation at the moment
without taking into account the high end picks from the Draft
Marshall , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey could take up 50% of available spots , so theoretically we might only need 4 to be selected
Cahill , Ford , Kelly , Jones , Rowe
Fullarton
Cockatoo , Durdin , Macrae , E Smith
Chugg , Laurie
etc etc
all seem popular selections , whether that translates into Round 1 selection , JS and points is all speculation at the moment
without taking into account the high end picks from the Draft
Marshall , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey could take up 50% of available spots , so theoretically we might only need 4 to be selected
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The fwd rookies from what I can tell that are the most likely to play are :-
Rowe
Cockatoo
F Macrae (fwd/mid)
Laurie (fwd/def)
Campbell (mid/fwd) - 189K though. Just read that in that swans intraclub game he was used in a quarterback role, swans players getting the ball to him whenever possible as his left foot kick is an absolute weapon (60 metre kicks with great accuracy) so he is someone to consider for sure.
Then you have the 200K to 260K types like Ziebell/Daniher/Impey/ who would have good job security - personally I am taking all 3 of them at this stage & Marshall.
Another option is Cahill at 170K with a role change, playing half back now.
Just weighing up myself if I take Dunkley/Martin as my 2nd fwd premium or back in the potential fwd rookies.
Rowe
Cockatoo
F Macrae (fwd/mid)
Laurie (fwd/def)
Campbell (mid/fwd) - 189K though. Just read that in that swans intraclub game he was used in a quarterback role, swans players getting the ball to him whenever possible as his left foot kick is an absolute weapon (60 metre kicks with great accuracy) so he is someone to consider for sure.
Then you have the 200K to 260K types like Ziebell/Daniher/Impey/ who would have good job security - personally I am taking all 3 of them at this stage & Marshall.
Another option is Cahill at 170K with a role change, playing half back now.
Just weighing up myself if I take Dunkley/Martin as my 2nd fwd premium or back in the potential fwd rookies.
Just to see how it looks, I have made a team with just Marshall as the only fwd premium which allows a stacked midfield - Taranto at M7 :-
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It would be certainly fairly unique - doubt I would have the guts to go this way though.
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It would be certainly fairly unique - doubt I would have the guts to go this way though.
Just need to follow the rookies.
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Just to see how it looks, I have made a team with just Marshall as the only fwd premium which allows a stacked midfield - Taranto at M7 :-
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It would be certainly fairly unique - doubt I would have the guts to go this way though.
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It would be certainly fairly unique - doubt I would have the guts to go this way though.
Agree - was just seeing how premiums mids I could squeeze in - far more likely to drop Taranto/ have 6 mids.
Something like this :-
Would love to hear more reports on how Caldwell is going - practice games are coming up in 2 weeks time so we will get a better idea of how guys like Caldwell are looking.
Something like this :-
Would love to hear more reports on how Caldwell is going - practice games are coming up in 2 weeks time so we will get a better idea of how guys like Caldwell are looking.